Tuesday, 4 November 2025

AND NOW FOR SOMETHING CONTROVERSIAL

 Let's talk about Maori rights vs the rights of non-Maori New Zealanders.

Are you aware that The Waitangi Tribunal has recommended that Maori seeking citizenship for children should be granted it regardless of where that child is born?

The Citizenship Act 1977 provides for four types of citizenship - citizenship by birth, descent, grant, and special grant - but it limits citizenship by descent to one generation.

The Tribunal recommended that citizenship by descent be extended to two generations for Māori!

The Tribunal found that the Crown has breached the principles of the Treaty of Waitangi in a number of ways, including by:


Designing an application process in which a Government official is empowered to determine the legitimacy of someone's whakapapa, which breached the principles of active protection and rangatiratanga.
Prioritising location of birth over whakapapa during the citizenship application process, which breached the principle of good government.

TRIBUNAL RELEASES REPORT ON CITIZENSHIP

WTF?

So the average Joe New Zealander, who isn't Maori, who for whatever reason decides to live overseas for a while and have children will find that those children will have to go through the normal process of citizenship application but, if the child has Maori parents all that will be waived?

Give me a break.








9 comments:

Rob said...

Your post is interesting but a bit misleading. As I read it all children born overseas where one parent is a NZ citizen automatically gets NZ citizenship by 'descent'. This will stay except it will be extended to the second generation in regard to Maori. Effectively including Maori grand children.

If you go one level deeper all Maori are descents of the original natives of this country. We are inmmigrants. In a way we are kind of fortunate that we don't have to apply for NZ citizenship by asking the Maori! That the Maori were subjugated does not give the rest of us immigrants inherent rights of citizenship. They just have no choice as a conquered people. There are many examples around the world where the original indigent population reserve their rights of nationality for hundreds of years before reclaiming them.

Richard (of RBB) said...

With a name with 'Donald' in it, you might get special rights in the USA.

THE CURMUDGEON said...

So writing this wasn't clear enough Robert?
"The Citizenship Act 1977 provides for four types of citizenship - citizenship by birth, descent, grant, and special grant - but it limits citizenship by descent to one generation."

The rest of what you wrote is silly nonsense about on a par with the silly nonsense you write when regurgitating the fantasies of teh Catholic Church.

THE CURMUDGEON said...

Those low-brow American comedy shows are always on the lookout for new material. Maybe you could contribute.

Rob said...

Are you aware that The Waitangi Tribunal has recommended that Maori seeking citizenship for children should be granted it regardless of where that child is born?" You said.
A. It reads like citizen ship is available in some overseas countries only.
B.it implies that citizenship to the first generation is not available for Maori.

Rob said...

So the average Joe New Zealander, who isn't Maori, who for whatever reason decides to live overseas for a while and have children will find that those children will have to go through the normal process of citizenship application but, if the child has Maori parents all that will be waived?" The amendment still allows for first generation non Maori overseas to have NZ citizenship!
See...misleading.
And, of course, who have no counter argument just the usual derogative adjectives like "silly" Robert.

THE CURMUDGEON said...

Silly Robert.

Richard (of RBB) said...

Ah well, that's our post for the next five days.

Anonymous said...

Silly Peter.